Arth Frown Or you don't know what god means to him?
that’s irrelevant, he learned his language in the same way as the rest of us did ~ from our families and cultures, this is a simple fact. Unless you can prove otherwise? We could read the influences on the brain if there was something actual occurring other that that, my guess is that you could never find an example of god literally teaching someone language, he certainly didn’t for me an most others so why would he choose only a few individuals and why not teach them all the same language, does he not want them to get on.
Hawthorn_Ent The reverence of the natural world is supposed to be the very core of druidry and that can stand true whether the druid is Christian or Pagan. If that is remembered then peace and respect come easy.
Well Christianity is somewhat at odds with nature [beasts etc], more than that I would say druidry is universal and Christianity is exclusive and specific.
A conspiracy theory; William Blake’s greatest work was reportedly pagan, and yet it went missing and is forever lost. My suspicions are that Christians only wanted the works they accepted to survive. Equally, most works by the great ancient Greek philosophers mention ‘god’ [?] many times, its even in the Egyptian book of the dead many times [both were pagan]. The Christians attempt to convert everything from our culture [festivals etc] and other pagan cultures to how they want them to be perceived.
Do you really think there are no agenda’s going on? Even the very thing of believing in another religion and trying to bring it into ours is itself an agenda. I wouldn’t have accepted it into Buddhism when I was a Buddhist, even though we generally got on very will with Christians, so can druidry not afford itself the same distinction.
It seems you and DJ have a chip on your shoulder concerning Christians. I know and respect your opinions but still must you be so judgemental and disrespectful? I know that druidry was originally pagan in ancient times. But things do change, even if it is to your disapproval.
I am a progressive and a contemporary druid, I neither think the ancient gods nor the monotheistic god are effectual in the world, hence I look to what the ancient druids saw behind the veil [ceugant and the awens] for an impersonalised and non-anthropomorphic perspective.
Let us not make circular arguments, people on both sides are guilty of disrespect.
It seems that wherever religions intermingle there is always strife. It is a major cause of war. People just cant set aside their differences. One would think druids could.....
Very true, so what’s the answer? We could say that respect for each other would be enough, alas it is not. If e.g. Islamic culture insists there should be Shariah law, and celtic culture says women should be free and equal [or at least modern secular culture does], then there will be conflicts of interest. What we have to do is gradually remove false philosophies like Shariah law [for reasons stated previously], or 'our god is better than your god' etc, then eventually people can just be people!
FoxPhantom I thought druids can, since I remember about them having a strong sense to know when to fight, or when peace is needed.
that’s an excellent point!
DJ DrooodI just don't see how someone carrying a bag of dogma from their religion into druidry keeps it dogma-free
Haha nice one!
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