C02 and ocean acidification

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C02 and ocean acidification

Postby Kernos » 22 Feb 2010, 21:33

The greenhouse effect is not the only environmental problem caused by CO2 elevations. Acidification of the oceans has been increasing (the pH decreasing) as CO2 levels have risen. Already we are seeing die offs of plankton and coral reefs since even slight decreases in pH interferes with their ability to form shells.

http://www.ooi.washington.edu/story/Ocean+Acidification

FFI, please check out the brochure and symposium links downloads.

Ongoing changes in the chemistry of the Earth's oceans
Ocean acidification is of particular concern in the northern Pacific Ocean.

Contributions from the burning of fossil fuels have pushed levels of carbon dioxide—a greenhouse gas—to change more rapidly over the past 200 years of the Industrial Era than for the 650,000 years preceding that Era.

The effects of carbon dioxide (CO2) on Earth’s climate have been mitigated by the oceans, which absorb roughly 25 percent of the CO2 contributed to the atmosphere by human activities each year. Increasing levels of carbon dioxide, however, are outstripping the absorptive abilities of the oceans and are causing climate change.

A more recently recognized effect is ocean acidification. Although climate change and ocean acidification are linked by the same cause—increasing levels of CO2—they are different phenomena. Ocean acidification occurs when carbon dioxide reacts with seawater and forms carbonic acid. In short, the oceans are becoming more acidic.

In an excellent brochure about ocean acidification, scientist Dick Feely with NOAA’s Pacific Marine Environmental Laboratory in Seattle, and his colleagues, write “…ocean acidification is a straightforward chemical response to CO2 emissions, and is measured and predicted with a high degree of certainty.”

As the oceans have removed CO2 from the atmosphere, the waters at the ocean’s surface have become more acidic. Levels of pH—a measure of acidity, with more acidic at a low pH (2 being lemon juice) and more basic at the high end (12 being oven cleaner)—have decreased. The historical pH of seawater is 8.16. Today’s measurements show a pH of 8.05. Even this seemingly small change can have deleterious effects on marine organisms that use the chemicals in seawater to build shells and skeletons made of the mineral calcium carbonate. Some of these organisms, such as the tiny, one-celled animals called pteropods, are at the base of the marine food chain. Disturbances to pteropod populations have ramifications for the entire ecosystem. Other organisms such as corals and mussels, which construct their structures and shells of calcium carbonate, could be affected. Fish populations may be affected by acidosis, a buildup of carbonic acid in body fluids.

Ocean acidification is of particular concern in the northern Pacific Ocean. Owing to the changes in climate over the past 50 years, this region has transitioned from a primarily cold and icy Arctic ecosystem to today’s warmer, sub-Arctic conditions. Already made vulnerable by climate change, the changing ocean chemistry of this region is expected to affect this region immediately. Because one half of all U.S. shellfish and fish are landed from the North Pacific, a productive and economically significant catch may be at risk because of acidosis.

In looking to the future, Feely and his colleagues write : “Today’s carbon dioxide emissions will continue to affect global ocean chemistry for many hundred of years to come, but a significant effort to curb our emissions will help slow the rate of change, allowing ecosystems a better chance to adapt and decreasing our ultimate negative impact on the environment.”

For more information: The Ocean in a High CO2 World Symposium.
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Re: C02 and ocean acidification

Postby Merlyn » 23 Feb 2010, 16:21

This is the greater problem.
It seriously impacts the ability of the ocean to process CO2, but more importantly it seriously impacts the first trophic level of the food chain.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trophic_dynamics

Each species in an ecosystem is affected by the other species in that ecosystem. There are very few single prey-single predator relationships. Most prey are consumed by more than one predator, and most predators have more than one prey. Their relationships are also influenced by other environmental factors. In most cases, if one species is removed from an ecosystem, other species will most likely be affected, in ways that may ultimately lead to extinction.


The impacts of pollution, and making it an issue of only temperature change have over simplified the issue.
A much more critical view must be presented that includes the more vital problems like the ocean, the food chain and how CO2 levels as well as other pollution must be put in check.
It is easy to think"Warmer climate, so what?"
But how about no food, no O2 or the many other affects of polluting the earth.

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Re: C02 and ocean acidification

Postby oaklight » 23 Feb 2010, 17:46

I read the article, but I'm still unclear about if carbolic acid itself, was detected, or simply the lowered Ph level. What I'm wondering is: what effect, if any, has sulfur dioxide emissions (and the acid rain it produces) from China and India contributed to the ocean Ph level, as detected.
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Re: C02 and ocean acidification

Postby Merlyn » 23 Feb 2010, 18:32

Hi Oaklight,
A look at lake Ontario;
http://www.epa.gov/glnpo/monitoring/gre ... tario.html
http://www.ilec.or.jp/database/nam/nam-07.html

This is just better documented, study of the affects of all kinds of pollution, and change.
The environmental change of the ocean is just as complex.

But if you have a fish tank you will have to monitor the PH level.
http://www.fishdoctor.info/fishdoctor/ammonia&PH.html

The Eco-system that the ocean is, is a balance. Unlike lakes and fish tanks, the ocean is everywhere, all over the earth.
No matter who pollutes it we all suffer.
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Re: C02 and ocean acidification

Postby Kernos » 23 Feb 2010, 18:43

oaklight wrote:I read the article, but I'm still unclear about if carbolic acid itself, was detected, or simply the lowered Ph level. What I'm wondering is: what effect, if any, has sulfur dioxide emissions (and the acid rain it produces) from China and India contributed to the ocean Ph level, as detected.


My brother and sister-in-law are both physical oceanographers, and I asked them the same question. The answer they gave was that it was a matter of quantity. Sulphur oxides, and Nitrogen oxides can both create acids in water, but apparently the CO2 is more important because of quantity. Underwater vulcanism can also result is acidification and is not measured directly. But indirectly underwater earthquake activity, easy to measure, has not increased in the time periods where acidity measures have been taken. The carbonic levels have been measured directly.

I have been accumulating references for you and some are about this problem. When I get these together I will post them in a new thread. I am looking at what I call secondary sources, ie, scholarly review articles, and am esp trying to find articles that are online in full with costing anything.

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Re: C02 and ocean acidification

Postby oaklight » 23 Feb 2010, 19:37

Kernos wrote:
oaklight wrote:I read the article, but I'm still unclear about if carbolic acid itself, was detected, or simply the lowered Ph level. What I'm wondering is: what effect, if any, has sulfur dioxide emissions (and the acid rain it produces) from China and India contributed to the ocean Ph level, as detected.


My brother and sister-in-law are both physical oceanographers, and I asked them the same question. The answer they gave was that it was a matter of quantity. Sulphur oxides, and Nitrogen oxides can both create acids in water, but apparently the CO2 is more important because of quantity. Underwater vulcanism can also result is acidification and is not measured directly. But indirectly underwater earthquake activity, easy to measure, has not increased in the time periods where acidity measures have been taken. The carbonic levels have been measured directly.

I have been accumulating references for you and some are about this problem. When I get these together I will post them in a new thread. I am looking at what I call secondary sources, ie, scholarly review articles, and am esp trying to find articles that are online in full with costing anything.

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Thanks Kernos, now it makes sense!
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