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Alternate Universes

Postby Bart » 05 Aug 2011, 10:01

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Re: Alternate Universes

Postby DJ Droood » 05 Aug 2011, 12:20

The authors stress that these first results are not conclusive enough either to rule out the multiverse or to definitively detect the imprint of a bubble collision.


In other words, "there is no god."

btw, what is an "algorithm"?

it does make sense to my feeble mind, though...if there are multiple stars and multiple solar systems and multiple galaxies, why not multiple universes? But does the next universe over have an impact on us?
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Re: Alternate Universes

Postby Bart » 05 Aug 2011, 12:36

Or there are multiple gods, for eachtheir own universe. Or the monotheistic god has more imagination than we give her credit for.

In case you were not kidding: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algorithm Problem: it is a finite list, defined by a PhD student. Maybe the godess option was excluded from the list.
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Re: Alternate Universes

Postby DJ Droood » 05 Aug 2011, 12:48

Bart wrote:Or there are multiple gods, for eachtheir own universe. Or the monotheistic god has more imagination than we give her credit for.

In case you were not kidding: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algorithm Problem: it is a finite list, defined by a PhD student. Maybe the godess option was excluded from the list.


I was only vaguely kidding...I've heard "of" algorithms, but pointing me towards scientific papers is a bit like sending a blind man into an art gallery. (I find my ignorance makes me even more skeptical, because even if if something exists, it is very hard to explain it to me, and even then I won't really understand...."Moon landing?...phttt....")

Perhaps each Universe has its own Harry Potter, or perhaps the thing that unites the multi-verse is a singular Potter.
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Re: Alternate Universes

Postby Bart » 05 Aug 2011, 13:39

I think Harry Potter, Mr Anderson and Dr. Who are the same person, just in another plain of existance.
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Re: Alternate Universes

Postby DJ Droood » 05 Aug 2011, 14:37

Bart wrote:I think Harry Potter, Mr Anderson and Dr. Who are the same person, just in another plain of existance.


Who could possibly prove you wrong?...I'm sure you must be right in at least one of the plains....(who is Mr. Anderson, btw?)
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Re: Alternate Universes

Postby Bart » 05 Aug 2011, 15:44

Sorry Matrix analogy: Mr Anderson is the alter ego of Neo.

Isn't it beautifull, allways being right (in some alternate universe, I'm going to reschedule Star Trek)
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Re: Alternate Universes

Postby dvawlqos » 10 Aug 2011, 16:27

DJ Droood wrote:
Bart wrote:Or there are multiple gods, for eachtheir own universe. Or the monotheistic god has more imagination than we give her credit for.

In case you were not kidding: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algorithm Problem: it is a finite list, defined by a PhD student. Maybe the godess option was excluded from the list.


I was only vaguely kidding...I've heard "of" algorithms, but pointing me towards scientific papers is a bit like sending a blind man into an art gallery. (I find my ignorance makes me even more skeptical, because even if if something exists, it is very hard to explain it to me, and even then I won't really understand...."Moon landing?...phttt....")

Perhaps each Universe has its own Harry Potter, or perhaps the thing that unites the multi-verse is a singular Potter.


Think of algorithms as computer programs and you'll be close. It's a set of instructions that allow someone to produce a result.
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Re: Alternate Universes

Postby DJ Droood » 10 Aug 2011, 16:40

dvawlqos wrote:Think of algorithms as computer programs and you'll be close. It's a set of instructions that allow someone to produce a result.


Thanks! I am barely numerate...I actually gave up math in Grade 10...I can add/subtract/multiply/divide and work with fractions and decimals quite well on a functional level, but my ignorance of higher math humbles me.
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Re: Alternate Universes

Postby FoxPhantom » 16 Aug 2011, 05:58

Possible that our universe lies behind another universe?
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Re: Alternate Universes

Postby Bart » 16 Aug 2011, 06:06

Where they are is the topic of the search. Maybe they are around our universe, but who knows maybe there is some common area. Anything is possible in the magical world of physics.
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Re: Alternate Universes

Postby Al Hakim » 24 Aug 2011, 20:06

Hi folks,
we hardly understand one universe. So what is the use of discussing parallel ones? Unfortunately I share DJDruids level of knowledge in maths. I could not make sense of certain articles to describe the formulas of other universes. But I was always convinced that there is something behind our knowledge. Perhaps modern archeologists will despise us for our poor level of consciousness in another millenium and just call us the "PCC - premordial calculator culture".
Isn't it thrilling to be possibly regarded a sort of "stone-aged" while actually thinking of being extremely advanced at the same time?
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Re: Alternate Universes

Postby Arcanum » 30 Aug 2011, 06:36

What about the same universe, big-banging, expaning collapsing, banging, etc.....for an n number of times.

Each iteration would be similar, but different.
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Re: Alternate Universes

Postby Bart » 30 Aug 2011, 12:58

That used to be a theory, but they abondend it. Apperantly the universe doesn't want to stop expanding. But one of the other multiverses might. As I understand each universe has different sets of laws of physics.
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Re: Alternate Universes

Postby Twyrch » 17 Sep 2011, 16:28

Bart, what would you think about the idea that there are not only alternate universes, but alternate realities within each universe. There's a theory that anything that could happen, does happen in another parallel universe or alternate dimension. It would help explain Deja vu, but who really knows for sure. :shrug:
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Re: Alternate Universes

Postby katie bridgewater » 17 Sep 2011, 16:51

Twyrch wrote:It would help explain Deja vu, but who really knows for sure. :shrug:


Deja vu is already explained, and it didn't take alternate universes!

Sensory information received by the nervous system is often sent to more than one area of the brain. Different processes take different lengths of time depending on what the info is, and how your brain is doing. So of you are tired or have taken psycho-active drugs, the speed at which your brain can interpret things will vary. In the case of deja vu, you experience something as a memory before you register the present, creating the effect of thinking you have seen this before. In actual fact, you only experienced it a nano second ago, but you have already created a memory of it, which when you see what is happening reminds you of the recently created memory.

The same principle allows you to dodge an obstacle before you have registered it because information from the optic nerve is sent to 2 different brain areas responsible for 'sight'. Before you have even noticed dog poo on the pavement in your conscious brain, a signal from your unconscious has sent a message to your feet to sidestep. You are not psychic, you just have a really good mechanism for avoiding danger. It's how come most of us are not dead yet...
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Re: Alternate Universes

Postby Bart » 17 Sep 2011, 20:14

Yes, true. But consider this: on quarks level any and every past can and will happen, just as any and every future. Only the now is certain. How Zen is that.
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Re: Alternate Universes

Postby treegod » 20 Sep 2011, 12:32

I have a little alternate universe to myself. I call him Fluffy.
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Re: Alternate Universes

Postby Mountainheart » 20 Sep 2011, 13:43

Bart wrote:Yes, true. But consider this: on quarks level any and every past can and will happen, just as any and every future. Only the now is certain. How Zen is that.


Is that a result of probability? Every thing that is possible will have happened or will happen, no matter how small the probability, because the cosmos is so vast, so old and potentially so nested?
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Re: Alternate Universes

Postby Lily » 20 Sep 2011, 13:49

Bart wrote:Yes, true. But consider this: on quarks level any and every past can and will happen, just as any and every future. Only the now is certain. How Zen is that.

does it really have to do with quarks?
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