By earth, sea and sky

[madpoet]

I'd like to figure out how to say: "By earth, sea and sky" as in an oath.  Having sent this request to my Irish teacher he replied back with:

I don't know that this particular one is used, but analagous to "Dar Dia!" you could say "Dar an talamh, an mhuir is an spéir!", but that's an exclamation.  I guess you could say "Geallaim duit ar an talamh, an mhuir is an spéir." to make a promise on these.  There's another word, "dearbhaigh" which is used for asserting that something is true on official forms, but I'm not sure that this is used in other kinds of oaths.

I suppose in my own case "Dar Déithe" would be more appropriate then the singular form of God.

Does anyone have any thoughts or suggestions?  Has anyone run into this line in the manuscrpits?


~MP

[Megli]

What form of Irish do you want it in? There are numerous references to earth, sea and sky in the sagas but of course these are in old/middle irish. Let me know and I'm sure we cd figure something out.
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[madpoet]

Well it would be a start having it in any form or dialect, to rework it into modern Irish.  I assumed that if it was said in the old days that mayhap it is available somewhere in the manuscripts, with regard to the old stories.  Since I am no where near ready to read old/middle Irish, nor have the resources, I don't look over the text.  I am coming at this from the aspect of storytelling, for I would like to add it into my tellings, in Irish - then in English, where appropriate.  A little device to add some character to the tales when heard.  I think it would be best to ultimately have it in modern Irish, or a considered equivalent.

Thanks
~MP

[madpoet]

Where I found this site, that has some oaths: www.sengoidelc.com

It's a start, but not exactly what I was looking for, the hunt goes on!

~MP

Post Script: Perhaps I need to rethink my goal.

[Megli]

that's a really good site - i love the one about beer and a cat with milk.

[Fox]

I like the one about Fergus having sex with a fairy queen, and he says, "My member is 7 handwiths long and you are only 3 handwiths tall." To which she replies "A woman's loins can absorb a lot!"

[madpoet]

hehe that's my favorite as well.