Heddwen wrote:Well the beauty of OBOD Druidry is the lack of 'leaders' and 'teachers'. There is no need for hierarchy and we cannot presume to teach each other. Lets not create any tiered systems or dogma. The self serving role of leader can only feed the personal ego, the ego is something that we address on our spiritual journey through druidry.We are able to commune directly with Source ourselves, in fact we are all equal clergy.
We are guided by the gwersi, our tutors and the shapes and signs in the Landscape that surrounds us. People will ask for guidance if it is required. Our tutors are supplied by the large umberella of OBOD, I have found their help invaluable and they have always guided me gently and supportively, never preaching.
DJ Droood wrote:Heddwen wrote:Well the beauty of OBOD Druidry is the lack of 'leaders' and 'teachers'.
This is all true if you are content to do your own thing, but as soon as you engage spiritually with even one other person, it starts to get complicated... Most of the group experiences I've been involved with that fall apart are because of lack of leadership, or poor leadership.
Hawthorn_Ent wrote: How far have you gotten into the OBOD course? Or any other druid course?
Bartholomew wrote:So I suppose it boils down to the maturity of the members and their egos, involved in the group. This top dog centre stage stuff. I just don't know anymore what to do. A group with no direction is going nowhere.
Bartholomew wrote:That's ok Wolf560, no worries, no concerns. I must be wearing my cloak of invisibilty again on these old Druid forums.
Hawthorn_Ent wrote:I just looked up the BCD. It appears they may now be defunct. Like the New Order of Druids they are affiliated with the Druid Network.
One thing that does worry me about NOD is their small size and low activity.
Bartholomew wrote: Come the new year I won't be frequenting these message boards at all.
DJ Droood wrote:This is all true if you are content to do your own thing, but as soon as you engage spiritually with even one other person, it starts to get complicated...where are you going to meet, what are you going to do, who brings the candles and who brings the pita and hummus?...I don't think a leader has to be like the head priest or David Koresh, but someone who can help get things done....an organizer. Most of the group experiences I've been involved with that fall apart are because of lack of leadership, or poor leadership.
And when you are talking about a huge group like the one Wolf560 is talking about, not everyone will be OBOD and it would be a huge job to organize and keep running. Not everyone..in fact, hardly anyone....seems inclined or interested in doing largely unrecognized and unappreciated volunteer work. They simply want to turn up, if they feel like it, dance around, light a few candles, eat the pita and hummus and go home. Thank goodness for "leaders". (who usually stick around to clean up, as well.)
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