I was wondering whether you have come across Dafydd Nanmor cywydd dealing with duw and saturn in your travels. If you have, do you know whether the canu brud has been dated, or whether any connections have been undertaken with the actual astronomical conjunction, or even whether it was viewed and experienced by Dafydd?
An interesting comment you have made there, linking the filid with the early church, and monastic schools. I’m aware of several people who tend to have come to a similar conclusion in other areas, including myself specifically in relation to the early saints and later hermits within Wales. However you may also find later connections in the 7th century at the synod of Birr in Co. Offalay AD 697. Adomnán negotiated the Law of Innocence concerning non combatants and the use of women within warfare. This was ratified by fifty one sovereign rulers at the time. The influence from Rome is not in sight, as far as, one is aware!
In the meantime; another short essay on Dafydd Llwyd from a different perspective: -
Dafydd Llwyd was a prolific writer, and a gentleman poet who worked in the cywyddau tradition specifically in relation to the canu brud - prophetic poetry. He was a staunch supporter within the national interest of Wales, having experienced the after affects of the Owain Glyn Dwr rebellion. Later being affected by the politics governing the War of the Roses of which both Yorkist and Lancastrians received varying support from welsh regional areas. The idea of a national deliver for Wales was firmly built into the consciousness of the society, form Geoffrey of Monmouth view of the History of Britain, together with the prophecies of Merlin and Arthur. Such a deliver was associated through the genealogical line of Ednyfed whom had served Llwyweln ap Gruffyd up until the events of 1282. Nonetheless Henry Tudor originated from the same bloodline and became a prime candidate who might fulfil the role.
Indeed Dafydd Llwyd, was an influential bard and a prolific poet whom assisted to shape the national mind and consciousness while assisting to pave the way using prophetic poetry techniques. For instance, when Henry as a young child in the care of William Herbert at Reglan. Dafydd Llwyd addressed Herbert about the importance of his foster charge. References linked Henry to the "young swallow", being the rightful successor to the "Eagle of Ynys Mon" was in his care. The presence of Henry Tudor at Raglan in turn attributed to it, becoming a central point of bardic patronage during the middle of the 14th century.
Exchanges within the bardic tradition between Dafydd and Gruffudd ap Llywelen Fychan in its poetic form, progressed the "young swallow" to become the "mab daragon," which sets the prophetic animal into mythical symbolism. The scene and images projected, in accordance to oral tradition could be very similar to the use within gnomic poetry, yet it sets, and probably assists to steer the child's destiny. The events surrounding the upsurge of Richard, the Earl of Gloucester to Richard III, the safety of Henry Tudor became paramount. Subsequently Henry, the "young swallow" or the proclaimed "Eagle of Ynys Mon" was brisked away to Europe for safety.
Moreover Dafydd Llwyd renounced his loyalties to the "Boar" of England (Richard III), and became a stanched supporter to the "Eagle of Ynys Mon". Indeed the poetic outpouring eventually proclaimed the return of the "mab daragon," while awaiting the return of Henry Tudor from France, which cumulated in the battle at Bosworth, and the crowning of Henry VII as sovereign ruler of England. Although the legend became fulfilled with a Brythonic King seated in London, Wales became redefined and incorporated with England during his reign and later cemented in place through his second son Henry VIII. Indeed after the events of Bosworth, a very contentious point, for Dafydd Llwyd is released through his poetical voice where bardic poetic predictions, canu brud, took there time to materialise and manifest themselves, or even perhaps, not at all.
In hindsight one could come to an assumption which might indicate that Dafydd Llwyd was a casualty of the bardic oral tradition, caught up with the notion of having a Brythonic King seated on the thrown of England. Although legend claimed Cadwaladr, previously was the last to achieve this, and indeed many others had also claimed likewise. Historically, claims to this position can be traced back to 43AD, to Caratactus who rallied support from the Silues. After the Battle of Medway, with the subsequent loss of the Cullevianllaui and associated expansive territory in the SE of England came under Roman hegemony; however London has its later foundations as a trading centre within the Roman period. Irrespectively what becomes clear is the importance of the position held by the Bardic tradition in relationship to the society in which they served. Although their poetry acted similar, as if one read a newspaper today, the bards disseminated the news concerning current events to the people. More of all, the canu brud disseminated hope, up lifting the society for the future, from such memories of the famine and the plague of the late 14th century, and the subsequent internal war mongering for political positions and power. Overall the canu brud which was full of hope cemented the people together, with a sense of pride.
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