DJ Droood wrote: I think I did get that..it is the fall of Eve and Adam. He is offering us the end result of our original sins...we will "be as gods, knowing good and evil." Cameron is the Cecil B. DeMille of our time, I will grant you that.
I don't see any parralells with Christian theology. It is not original sin, or Adam and Eve, that Cameron is concerned with (original sin in Christianity is built into us as 'fallen' beings, and we can only be redeemed by God's grace). Cameron is concerned with the modern 'sins' of self centredness and materialism which our current society regards as virtues.
DJ Droood wrote:I think yous all are ignoring the history of "aliens" as metaphor in film, and I don't think Cameron is breaking convention here.. Aliens, in film language, always denote "the Other", usually the Other we fear.
I disagree, aliens often represent various human or transhuman qualities abstracted and projected onto another. These qualities can be positive or negative and through the story we can examine their role and the effect those qualities have on a society. Look at the Ferengi in Star Trek, who obviously represent human acquisitiveness and thus their capitalist society is a satire on our own. Likewise Klingons represent the warrior urge, Vulcans the logical. In other franchises aliens have recently represented God/spirituality (2001 Space Odyssey, Fifth Element), Communism/Totalitarianism (Battlestar Galactica, Starship Troopers), 'Child-like innocence' (ET), Implacable Justice (Day the Earth Stood Still), etc etc.
DJ Droood wrote: They can be fear of a disease, or more recently, a projection of our guilt (District 9 - apartheid) and now Avatar..imperialist guilt wrapped up in some good old fashioned Genesis mythology.
I agree there is a recent trend (since the 70s) for us to sympathise with the Aliens who are far from all-powerful and fearful 'others', and which instead represent a downtrodden part of ourselves, current films with this motif include Avatar and District 9. I don't think this is a negative trend, District 9 seems like a clever way to get white American teenagers to sympathise with the plight of third world refugees, or imagine what it would feel like to live in an apartheid type society. I don't see explorations of collective guilt being negative.
DJ Droood wrote:oh, and what about the motivation of the main hero guy (I forget the characters name)..totally selfish....me me me...I can walk, I can have cool, exotic sensations (tasting the fruit Avariel mentiond...the forbidden fruit?? A little Adam/Eve-y, no??), I get the hot Alien chick and have 12 foot tall USB sex....there is very little "connecting" going on, except to his Id.
There are compensations for being a tree hugging hippy!
On a serious level though being a grounded connected person, at home in your skin and your world, is likely to lead to better sex.