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Re: Ethical Call, BP Oil Spill

Postby druiddean » 17 Jun 2010, 04:01

Merlyn,
Yes, this is the type of action that I am speaking of. I myself am pursuing Electrical Engineering, emphasizing Renewable Energy. Going great lengths to "wing" oneself from petro and other forms of non renewable energy is a colossal feat, and takes a great deal of courage. Kodos Merlyn! And I agree there is much work to be done.
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Re: Ethical Call, BP Oil Spill

Postby HinduDruid » 17 Jun 2010, 04:50

Dear friends,

Most of us are watching helplessly as the oil spill in the Gulf damages our ecosystem, but there is something we can do in our own homes to help. Rather than giving into the anger, let’s use our energy to bring about positive change.

Dr. Masaru Emoto is a Japanese scientist who has conducted the most amazing experiments with water including healing pollution with prayer. A participant in the movie “What the Bleep Do We Know?,” he has actual scientific evidence that sending loving thoughts to water changes its structure (http://www.masaru-emoto.net). He proposes that we recite this prayer:

"I send the energy of love and gratitude to the water and all the living creatures in the Gulf of Mexico and its surroundings. To the whales, dolphins, pelicans, fish, shellfish, planktons, corals, algae and all living creatures.....I am sorry. Please forgive me. Thank you. I love you."

Let me offer this suggestion also. Recite this prayer in the shower, when you’re washing clothes or dishes, or even if you’re in the rain! Water will connect to itself and spread the healing energy faster this way.

Mother Earth is not fragile herself, but our existence is. If we continue to damage her, she’ll take us out!

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Re: Ethical Call, BP Oil Spill

Postby DJ Droood » 17 Jun 2010, 13:11

Perhaps it is Obama's fault for not 'splainin it right:

President Obama's speech on the gulf oil disaster may have gone over the heads of many in his audience, according to an analysis of the 18-minute talk released Wednesday.

Tuesday night's speech from the Oval Office of the White House was written to a 9.8 grade level, said Paul J.J. Payack, president of Global Language Monitor. The Austin, Texas-based company analyzes and catalogues trends in word usage and word choice and their impact on culture.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/06/16/ ... tml?hpt=C1
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Re: Ethical Call, BP Oil Spill

Postby Merlyn » 17 Jun 2010, 14:00

That's a nice way to put it DJ,
"over the heads of the small people" eh?

Here is what I see, with Obama,
His solution to everything is to preach about it. Are we out of Afghanistan? Iraq? Is the prison closed? no. Was his speech all about something he cannot do? yes.
Why would this be any different?

Obama's solution to the housing crisis? Give people a tax they can never pay, to pay off the very people who stole the money..
Then make a stack of changes which; make a new agency possible with the banks which is in essence a collection agency that; puts out "mortgage modification loans". These loans are worse than what got us in the sub prime problem in the first place. (They are floating interest 6 year arms which in the end spell disaster to the home owner, after of course Obama is out of office..)

No matter what this man says, he don't know dick! :x

Slick little speaker though.. :thinking:
But as we see the world is on to him now, and his buddies.

By November he will be a lame duck.
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Re: Ethical Call, BP Oil Spill

Postby DJ Droood » 17 Jun 2010, 17:20

I'm a bit surprised that this is not more about Obama, and BP is still taking any heat at all. Their PR firm must suck...they should hire the people who made the Israeli attack on the aid convoy all about reporter Helen Thomas within the first 48 hours. (at least in US news)
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Re: Ethical Call, BP Oil Spill

Postby Merlyn » 17 Jun 2010, 18:43

There are few ethics involved in what Obama is doing, about oil or anything else. Love the way he makes dung sound like ice cream in his speeches.
He said he was wondering who's arse to kick. I guess the buck doesn't stop with him now does it?

While passing around the blame and playin' monkey tail, the oil continues to gush out....
We had it right in the 70s, should have kept the eye on the ball.
As for Israel, so much for the twin towers eh? Not the best of friends to have....

The BP CEO follows a long list of corporate faces used as congressional punching bags. Just this year, executives from Goldman Sachs spent nine hours trying to fend off accusations from senators that they bilked investors, and Toyota President Akio Toyoda personally and repeatedly apologized for deadly defects in his company's cars, only to have angry lawmakers forcefully respond that was hardly sufficient.


So I have to say, "outsource everything" and you get what you get!?
From small people to getting my life back, and the poor punching bag BP sent today to be grilled by those who sold us all out in the first place, I have been looking..
Looking for a nice mirror, you know one good enough to send to president Obama, so he knows who's arse to kick. After he uses it, he can hand it to all the members of congress to try.

Meanwhile I am trying to find a job that isn't outsourced, and even some shoes that are not made in China...
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Re: Ethical Call, BP Oil Spill

Postby Nightfalls » 18 Jun 2010, 09:10

druiddean wrote:Moral of the story? "Do something"


My homeland (Pensacola Beach, Worlds Whitest Beaches) and my current home, Key West are both being affected by this. My Mom and Grandparents called me today, on my birthday by the way, not only to wish me a happy one but to inform me Tar balls have washed up on their property and pretty much ruined their stretch of backyard beach. :gloomy:

You think i am not doing something about it? I am doing the only thing i can, volunteering my free time to clean up the mess. Believe me, i hate cleaning up after others, but i am not going to sit here and do nothing. To me dancing and waving wands and chanting a "Justice Spell" will only help to get nothing accomplished. Join the cleanup crews in your area.
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Re: Ethical Call, BP Oil Spill

Postby DJ Droood » 18 Jun 2010, 11:26

Nightfalls wrote:I am doing the only thing i can, volunteering my free time to clean up the mess. Believe me, i hate cleaning up after others, but i am not going to sit here and do nothing.


I would suggest that you keep track of your hours and somehow document them, and submit a bill to BP (or the Federal government) for every moment you spend cleaning up their mess. Good luck.


edit: Now this is more like what I expect...Republican politicians grovelling to BP..none of Obama's lefty socialism:


Republican apologizes to BP over White House 'shakedown'

Read more: http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Republ ... z0rD5kEQfN

"I think it is a tragedy of the first proportion that a private corporation can be subjected to what I would characterize as a shakedown, in this case, a $20-billion shakedown," Barton told Hayward at the House energy and commerce subcommittee hearing.

"I apologize. I do not want to live in a country where any time a citizen or a corporation does something that is legitimately wrong is subject to some sort of political pressure that is, again, in my words, amounts to a shakedown. So I apologize."

Read more: http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Republ ... z0rD50qbif
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Re: Ethical Call, BP Oil Spill

Postby Merlyn » 18 Jun 2010, 16:26

Gotta watch the spin that news puts on all of this DJ,


Not that this has anything to do with spells or balance.
Given that; BP has elected to put aside money, which we will hope is responsibly managed... (Ok good luck, but it could happen)

What the congressman is making effort to say IMO is no due process of law was observed in what is going on.
Let's say for the sake of argument;
And it's true, the Obama admin watchdog signed off on the inspection of the drilling rig, before the disaster. And that's no excuse for Transocean to not do the job right, but they got a free pass, using gifts and a system of favors to avoid real in-depth inspections as should have been done. So like it or not, Obama needs his mirror to look at for this part of the deal.

More than one company is involved, frankly what is BP's real scope responsibility? has this been assessed?

At the time of the incident, the contractor Transocean Ltd was drilling an exploration well on Mississippi Canyon Block 252. BP has a 65% interest in MC252.
The rig subsequently sank on Thursday 22 April and an extensive spill response operation was activated, involving more than 2500 people, a fleet of vessels, aircraft, dispersants and booms.


http://www.bp.com/genericarticle.do?cat ... Id=7061731

Let's connect some dots...

Transocean is the company who was doing the drilling.
http://www.deepwater.com/fw/main/Our-Company-2.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transocean
Transocean Ltd. (NYSE: RIG) is the world's largest offshore drilling contractor. The company rents floating mobile drill rigs, along with the equipment and personnel for operations, to oil and gas companies at an average daily rate of US$142,000 (2006). Transocean's day rates extend as high as US$650,000 for its deepwater drillships, which house dual activity derricks and can drill in ultra-deep ocean depths of 10,000 ft (3,000 m).[3]

Transocean employs over 25,000 people worldwide, and has a fleet of 139 offshore drilling units and three ultra-deepwater units under construction as of April 2010. The company is based in Vernier, Switzerland, near Geneva, and it has offices in 20 countries, including major offices in Switzerland, United States, Norway, Scotland, Brazil, Indonesia and Malaysia. Transocean positions itself as a powerful company doing the impossible based on its motto, “We’re never out of our depth”. The firm’s website is, “deepwater.com” to emphasize its deepwater expertise, and that it owns nearly half of the 50 or so deepwater platforms in the world.[4]


So... did BP screw it all up... or was it really transocean? based in Switzerland.

Now, it's a given that BP contracted Transocean, to ultimately it is BPs "job" in essence.

And if we dig further, we can most likely find that all these companies and more are all like minded, share holders and all.

But if we are going to aim a wand at something, it might bode one to do a bit of research and dig a bit.

And we now know where the "small people" remark came from, not from BP but from Transocean.

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Re: Ethical Call, BP Oil Spill

Postby FoxPhantom » 18 Jun 2010, 18:22

I for one would not use magic or prayer to bring someone down, (since it's like asking for a 9 fold rule to happen IMO) even though I don't use magic normally, and that I think it is a disaster since with the oil in the gulf, where a lot of things live in it, for there home is getting ruined. I feel that it should be taken care of in some way where it can't come leaking for right now. Yet I wonder when that will happen, since they might be trying to find the leaking pipe so they could remove the pressure that the oil is coming out of.

((Pretty much I am excited for the Summer solstice, since this would be the first time I ever did this and that I would prey for the earth for it's waters to be cleansed. ))
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Re: Ethical Call, BP Oil Spill

Postby Merlyn » 18 Jun 2010, 20:29

Pretty much I am excited for the Summer solstice, since this would be the first time I ever did this and that I would prey for the earth for it's waters to be cleansed.


Now, THAT is a great idea! :hug:

I will join you!

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Re: Ethical Call, BP Oil Spill

Postby halfelf » 30 Jul 2010, 06:11

The oil spill has stopped but what is astounding scientists is the oil is disappering!! our prayers are being answered the microbes are eating themselves full. Its like the world is hearing us and fighting back! We (America) have another problem now, an oil pipeline in Michigan is now leaking 1000,s of gallons of crude. Is karma comming back on America's greed? Please help, focus our energy to stop this destruction of our planet. The companies responsible for these tragedies need to recheck their safety practices!! However if this oil hits the grain belt all nations will suffer in one way or another.Thanks to all!! But we're not done yet.
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