We can debate other morals if anyone so wishes, its just that it’s a current topic and I fear where it will potentially go.
I take it you are essentially saying that Judeo-Christian values arent natural and people don’t want to live by them if given the freedom, to which I agree.
I would say, however, that I think NA and Europe are "different".
A little yes, but not massively. Its strange I was watching an English couple on overhauling [american custom car tv show] and suddenly they seamed really English, a matter of context I suppose. One doesn’t know we are this or that, we all think we are the norm ~ which we ‘all’ are.
..North America has a culture built on immigration (including lots and lots of French and Spanish), and the late-comers don't really have a moral right to tell the next wave they don't belong. I do however, think the newcomers should respect the culture of the country they are arriving in, and learn the language. Is it a radically rightist thing to expect people living in Germany to speak German or England to speak English? I don't think so.
English policy is moving towards getting immigrants to speak the native tongue, when in rome… I suppose. I don’t think it is a problem to expect that but to make people do this or that and act like so, that is not a free world Imho. I wonder what all those English living in spain, france and the greek islands etc, would say if they were told not to speak English, my guess is they wouldn’t like it and would move to more tolerant nations. You then potentially end up with nationalism and countries of a single culture [in the main] , along with all the problems that has brought in the past.
It seams strange to me for e.g. Australians and Americans who conquered native peoples and destroyed them and their cultures [to a large degree], to then demand that their particular brand of immigrant is the standard? We Europeans are not so different either, the map has changed dramatically over time as has the languages ~ much of which is Latin based from their roman conquerors, are we then not demanding that people speak a foreign language?
Anyhow it all seams very transient, baseless and vacuous to me, so all I am saying is that no-one should be making demands either way. wolf560
I agree, if we go down the path of making people act like so, then how long before we druids are vilified again? I think our secular and liberal modern values have already superseded Judeo-Christian ones, lets keep going in the right direction eh.
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