=West= wrote:It got me to thinking - what are the equivalents in the Western traditions? Surely we could look to the Arthurian myths for tales of Chivalry and such, but I'm thinking there must be some mythologies that go back even further from which we could draw parallels...
Kullervo wrote:My undersanding of paganism is that, on a fundamental level, it sacralizes all of the human experience, not just bits and pieces of it. The sacred/profane distinction is more flexible and porous, and as such all warriors are sacred to Ares, Athena, or whatever war gods you prefer.
The head of this society wrote a book exploring the sacred warrior concept in celtic myth and legend. He delved into Arthurian source material, as well as analysing the druid warrior's magical martial "feats" from the irish texts, and the Warrior schools such as Scathach's, on Skye.
If one man conquer in battle a thousand times thousand men, and if another conquer himself, he is the greatest of conquerors.
(The Dhammapada VIII 103)
=West= wrote:Sorry - I should have clarified my meaning of 'sacred warrior'. There are a few aspects to it that I'd like to point out:
As was previously noted, the concept of the Samurai is a good analogy. While the ideal of the sacred warrior is one that invariably springs initially from a feudal or monarchy system (and thereby relates to war), the modern concept of the sacred warrior is more altruistic in that we no longer swear fealty to a king or a military system. Nonetheless, the characteristics of the sacred warrior are still very much needed in our time. In the Shambhala tradition (I'm just reading this, so forgive me for the topical review) the idea is that we can work, as individuals, toward creating Shambala here on earth (Shambhala = Shangri La) - a place where human beings live up to their full potential in all aspects of self-knowledge, courage, gentleness - for the sake of ALL beings. It does not necessarily have to be wedded to any religious or spiritual tradition, however. In fact the Shambhala tradition is secular, specifically tailored to suit modern individuals without carrying any particular dogma with it.
So I guess what I'm looking for is some text or such that looks at what the warriors were like in our own tradition, but extrapolating beyond the strict militaristic viewpoint. Arthur/Chivalry is a good place to start, but I suspect there are similar stories and concepts we can pull from the texts that predate Arthurian legend.
Does that help?
"I, do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."
How is that any different?
Kullervo wrote:A modern soldier in the U. S. military enlists with an oath:"I, do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."
And soldiers in the Army are committed to living up to the Army values: Loyalty, Duty, Respect, Selfless Service, Honor, Integrity, and Personal Courage.
And you can see discipline among soldiers like you'll see in few other places.
How is that any different?
Eilthireach wrote:A sacred warrior, in the contrary, is a spiritual concept. Spiritual concepts exist to help to make better and happier people, to help people understand their True Will and to come to a form of understanding of the Divine.
The original question of this thread was after the spiritual concept. Please try to stick with the topic.
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