Angelique11 wrote:I've heard bits and pieces here and there about the seal of the confessional being allowed to be broken under certain conditions, ie in the confession of a murder or some such.
As far as I was aware the sacrament of reconciliation is an act of penance between the confessor and the Priest who in this capacity is acting as the face of God/ Christ. An examination of the conscience and reparation of deeds done that do not sit right in the face of God.
A holy sacrament. To divulge a person's confession to a third party I feel in this case would be immoral and an abuse of privileges of the said Priest and of the religion he is representing, and he of course is only acting as an intermediary at this particular time. I wonder what any other priests/vicars out there would think about that. I am open for a bit of discussion.
I wonder if the breaking of the confessional seal would be considered a mortal sin in the eyes of God?
dvawlqos wrote: I think it's a bad situation when one person can go in and say "bless me father, for I am a serial killer" and the priest can't say anything about it.
MoonGoddess9 wrote:My father being a Pentecostal Preacher always said nowhere in the bible does it say we are to "confess" our sins to a priest or pastor or any one else, only to God.
As a penalty for the sin they have committed, they must bring to the LORD a female lamb or goat from the flock as a sin offering; and the priest shall make atonement for them for their sin. - Leviticus 5:6
Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective. - James 5:16
Badger Bob wrote:dvawlqos wrote:The Priest is supposed to urge the person to turn themselves in, withhold absolution and bar the person from the sacraments if the confession is deemed to be of sufficient gravity.
Huathe wrote: After all, someone else has been hurt or killed in those cases and I feel God would want those guilty being brought to justice.
dvawlqos wrote: To me that's anti-religion, because the goal of religion is to help to make society better.
Twyrch wrote: This idea comes from the Old Testament times when the High Priest would present the sins of the people before God behind the Holy of Holies. … James 5:16:Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective. - James 5:16
“Then said Jesus to them again, Peace be unto you: as my Father hath sent me, even so send I you. And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost: Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.”
In addition though, in my understanding, absolution is not valid, whatever the priest may say, unless there is true repentance and someone who intends to commit the same sin again would not be absolved in the eyes of, or reconciled with, “God”. However, it is not really up to the priest to judge the legitimacy of the confession, he has to take it at face value – “God” actually does the absolving and will know - so the priest is bound by the confessional whatever he may suspect. (Reminds me of the quote attributed to the leader of the Albigensian crusade attack on Béziers, “Kill them all, God will know his own.”)Badger Bob wrote: The Priest is supposed to urge the person to turn themselves in, withhold absolution and bar the person from the sacraments if the confession is deemed to be of sufficient gravity.
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