poeticoxana wrote:Vegan diet requires less land, less water. It eliminates waste off farmlands that pollute our rivers and the ocean. It gives people in the Majority World to grow food for themselves, rather than to feed cattle that is exported to the Minority World.
And - just think of it - all the grazing lands can be turned into forests! Yoo-hoo!
DJ : Most OBODies on the board, mirroring society at large, seem to be quite aggressively against it...
Ade Sundog wrote:DJ : Most OBODies on the board, mirroring society at large, seem to be quite aggressively against it...
Just a quick bit of research shows where the priorities of most of the members of this board lie -
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Corwen wrote:Anyway thats enough, I just can't be arsed any more to be honest, this board is too full of trolls and people who are simply stirrers for sensible discussion.
poeticoxana wrote:And what's wring with discussing difficult issues anyway? Is any spiritual path easy? Or are we juts prepared to enjoy the nice aspects of it: performing beautiful rituals, singing nice songs, getting altered states of consciousness - but then when it's time to make a meaningful choice that will have an affect on the physical plane - it's suddenly too much for us?
poeticoxana wrote:Druids speak of their connection to nature and venerate trees, and seek healing from plants. What about animals? Are they somehow excluded from "nature"? Even if they are, in some Druids' view, raising animals for food still poisons earth, air, and water - the three sacred elements...
...Each Druid should see clearly that with every meat morsel she puts in her mouth, more greenhouse gas has been released into the air, more manure (loaded with harmful substances) has flown into the water, more cesspools and bodies of dead animals have polluted the earth, and the fire had to deal with the carcasses of the animals and I'm sure it has other better things to do...
...But as in the wider society, so in the Druidic movement, we do need to talk about this issue - amiably, of course, and listening to each other. And we do have to make choices. I do not shy away.
Kima wrote:I second Lily in this. It's not as if being non-vegan means over-indulging in factory farm meat. I do all I can to avoid factory farm meat and only buy organic or at the very least free-range meat and dairy. This makes these products more expensive which ensures I don't buy more than I need. I like the
food acronym. I make sure that any food I buy is at least one of these, but when in doubt I take local and seasonal (except for meat and eggs, where other concerns take over). The reason why I have never considered going vegan is that it would be impossible to eat mostly locally produced, seasonal foods. Depending on where you live this may be different but I assure you that there isn't much growing in the winter in Switzerland - unless, that is, you want to encourage heating-generated greenhouse production. I would encourage anyone who thinks it's a better option to go vegan, but not doing so myself does not mean that I am thoughtless about the way I eat. It's a conscious and deliberate effort I make to think in terms of bioregions.
Also, you have to remember that everyone cannot afford a vegan (or indeed a SLOW) diet. It tends to be a middle-class choice.
Merlyn wrote:Food for thought,
Deer meat is very lean, as the deer store fat in a very different way than beef.
Merlyn wrote:Locavore, it's a way to better health, as we see another problem in how unregulated foods can and have caused widespread problems with contamination.
The convenience of city and suburban life have as much of an adverse environmental affect. This causes a food chain situation that needs all kinds of refrigeration, packaging, transportation and energy ....
can't say it is, 'cause it ain'tIt is no simple matter..
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