that's ok I just wanted to make sure participants in this discussion know several of these possible effects have been looked into, statistically, and no evidence's been found. Many people think these phenomena are frequent but they usually dissolve on statistical analysis.Muddy Fox wrote:Bloody hell, I've just realised which forum department I've wandered into again. Sorry Lily I cannot give you any facts and figures on this as I have not researched it in depth, I just thought I would comment. I am merely passing forward personal experiences and tales as passed to me by a trusted source, my mother.
As for Priestesses and Avalon, I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about as I have never looked into this aspect of Paganism. It's not my background I'm afraid.
but treegod, that's just the thing. they're not. at least statistically they are not more frequently loony than at other phases of the moon. ok the schizophrenics. I think I just dug out an appropriate article, watch for my next post.I'm imagining that if any effect is had it's something to do with this. Maybe all those "lunatics" are just antsy after a bad night's sleep
Let's not get personal. I was really trying to be neutral, aiming at nobody, it's not my fault if someone does not want to have their world view challenged.Lily "now it gets interesting...."
Well! Aren't you the little firecracker! I think I get Muddy Fox's frantic retreat from this thread in response to your post now.
ok - I used colloquial wording, excuse me.Lily "so you say there are moon-sensitive people and only those should be put in a study?"
No, I'm not saying anything conclusively or making any claim. What I am doing, Lily, is called ENTERTAINING A THEORY
absolutely correct. so basically we have the schizophrenia and the epilepsy left for the future discussion?I am saying that it would make sense to assemble a group of people who for whatever reason appear to be more affected than others by a particular stimulus for the purpose of research. If one is looking into the effects of strobing lights on epileptics for instance, it wouldn't make much sense to assemble a group of diabetics for the purpose now would it?
Lily "fine. define a way to separate them out."
Are you actually reading these posts? Is there some difficulty I'm unaware of in assuming that it would be easy to separate out schizophrenics from the general population? Aren't there already psych wards full of them just waiting to be observed?
Lily "I'm still skeptical that the shifted spectrum of moonlight vs. sunlight is in any way as powerful in terms of effect as strobing light when it comes to epileptics...."
What precisely is that skepticism based on? Intuition?
there could be, I don't know, I would assume not lumens(intensity) but Hertz(flash frequency) but I have no idea. It's happened with people driving along streets lined with regularly spaced trees, and with Pokemon on TV, correct?Are you suggesting there is a threshold of light intensity below which there is simply no effect, and if so, what is the threshold intensity (in lumens please)?
but if one light source/wavelength is more bright, it will dominate. that's what I mean.Lily "wouldn't e.g. artificial lighting interfere with that?"
The answer to that is no. Light waves of different frequencies can occupy the same space without canceling each other out.
Lily "considering that we probably get hours more exposure to indoor light per day than to the light of the full moon. imagine neon tubes, don't they flicker at 60 Hz?"
You have to ask? No offense Lily, but if a high school dropout is here having to explain to you the fundamentals of physics I don't know how you expect to make any kind of meaningful contribution to this topic.
Lily "Also light pollution by outdoor lighting comes into play as well... another different spectrum (think those orange street lamps)...."
Again, light waves propagated at different frequencies can occupy the same space without canceling each other out.
100000 Lux – Sunny day
10000-100000 Lux – Sunny day with some clouds
100-10000 Lux – Overcast sky
100-1000 Lux – Home/Office lighting
1-10 Lux – Street lighting
0.1 Lux – Full moon
0.01 Lux - Young moon
0.001 Lux – Clear night without moon
0.0001 Lux – Dark cloudy night
http://www.footprintsecurity.com.au/inf ... basics.php
Lily "please dig up that article on Schizophrenia, I'd be very interested.
also if you have something on epileptics, please pass it along."
Yes, of course, I will try to find the study on schizophrenia, as far as the epileptic response to strobing lights goes, that's common knowledge, Google it yourself....
Aemilius wrote:You have to ask? No offense Lily, but if a high school dropout is here having to explain to you the fundamentals of physics I don't know how you expect to make any kind of meaningful contribution to this topic.
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