Reason Would Have It...

[Fox of the Oaks]

At least you're learning. That is, you're learning to hit against different brick walls instead of the same one lol. But trust me, the more you test your ideas, by yourself and in front of others, the more you'll learn what's a brick wall and what's free moving space

Thanks treegod, 'tis appreciated.

[Karl]

A door-handle follows rules and works entirely rationally, but not many people would consider it intelligent.

Here's another question, is an egg alive? (I mean an egg containing a living embryo in this case)
You have your universe made mostly of rock and ice and cold cold nothing, but nestled inside is conciousness. An egg is a shell of non-living calciferous matter, but it contains life, life which would not be sustained otherwise.

I suppose you could separate out the bits, this bit is alive and that bit isn't, but if you keep going with that your cutting down to what is or isn't conciousness - then your screwed! You find me a piece of conciousness and I'll give you a squillion pound note!

[Lily]

A door-handle follows rules and works entirely rationally, but not many people would consider it intelligent.

good one

[DJ Droood]

Here's another question, is an egg alive? (I mean an egg containing a living embryo in this case)
You have your universe made mostly of rock and ice and cold cold nothing, but nestled inside is conciousness. An egg is a shell of non-living calciferous matter, but it contains life, life which would not be sustained otherwise.

I suppose you could separate out the bits, this bit is alive and that bit isn't, but if you keep going with that your cutting down to what is or isn't conciousness - then your screwed! You find me a piece of conciousness and I'll give you a squillion pound note!

That is perhaps the most singularly "druidy" question ever posed on these forums. To which I must solemnly answer...dunno.... (and yes, Latin nerds, I know fora is plural of forum, but there is such a thing as modern English usage.)

[Karl]

I know one thing, you can't apply Schroedinger's Prinicple to an egg; break one of those open and whatever may or may not have been alive certainly wouldn't be afterwards!

And on that note, I'm getting lunch!

[Fox of the Oaks]

Here's another question, is an egg alive? (I mean an egg containing a living embryo in this case)
You have your universe made mostly of rock and ice and cold cold nothing, but nestled inside is conciousness. An egg is a shell of non-living calciferous matter, but it contains life, life which would not be sustained otherwise.

Good question.

Life and death two sides of the same egg...

[DaRC]

I know one thing, you can't apply Schroedinger's Prinicple to an egg; break one of those open and whatever may or may not have been alive certainly wouldn't be afterwards!

Ermm i think it is a good example for Schroedinger's thought experiment - with proper eggs (i.e. where the chickens are free range with a cock running the coop) when you hold the egg it could be said to be both alive (i.e. fertilized) and not alive (i.e. unfertilized) at the same time.
Only when you break the egg do you know which it is (i.e. the observer impacts the result), although as you've pointed out in this thought experiment the observer by cracking the egg would kill a fertilized egg.