Numerology?

[Lily]

I don't think number bases violate any civilisation of the world, apart from creating a common mathematical language for communication. Similarly to the way Bach and the Equal Temperament created a common scale for musicians what they do is allow people an agreed method for communcating ideas - which can only be a good thing.

and arguably, there being twelve notes in the scale, not eight, the eight-note scale with flats and sharps is a bit of a musical strait jacket, like an apple-pied bed. can't have a good stretch out, as it were. it doesn't suit every culture's folk music. just imagine the paradigm shift in music if all twelve notes were treated as equals instead of there being seven white and five less important black keys on a piano. imagine the difference in the psychological effect.

I play the violin, in all theory if I don't play from Sheet music, all notes are equal...but they aren't, f sharp does not equal g flat except on a tempered piano.
then again you notice the sound change once you add more flats or sharps... because the empty strings don't resonate with g/d/a/e flat. so there's different musical mindframes and not all notes are creates equal, but it varies by instrument.

which by extension to numerology would mean you might get different insights depending on the number base used - and what is true then?

[wyeuro]

I play the violin, in all theory if I don't play from Sheet music, all notes are equal...but they aren't, f sharp does not equal g flat except on a tempered piano.

wow. amazing. but but but...
i've got a lot to learn about harmonics - thanks for the impetus and direction.
wy

[Karl]

I play the violin, in all theory if I don't play from Sheet music, all notes are equal...but they aren't, f sharp does not equal g flat except on a tempered piano.
then again you notice the sound change once you add more flats or sharps... because the empty strings don't resonate with g/d/a/e flat. so there's different musical mindframes and not all notes are creates equal, but it varies by instrument.

which by extension to numerology would mean you might get different insights depending on the number base used - and what is true then?

Not all notes are equal and I believe not all numbers are equal either.
Interestingly sound waves are measured in an exponential scale (ie Low C = 523Hz, Middle C = 261Hz, High C = 130Hz) rather than a linear scale. I wonder if Numerological practices could be employed using an exponential base?!

You would get different insights depending on the number base used, I think this is because it treats understanding like white light through a prism - use a different prism and it splits the light in different ways. Use a different number base and it splits the wisdom in different ways.

[Attila]

^^ good thinking!

Whatever calendar one employs it still relates to a particular time. How we then consider the cardinality of that seems impossible to determine, we could take our DOB but why should we work by the rotations of the earth as the measure? What if you were born in another galaxy!

On the other hand there are patterns to things out there, the way things fall into place, that the moon is just the right distance from the earth for an eclipse etc. this is something the ancient Britons took very seriously ~ enough to make varied number stone circles all over Britain, were they trying to work something out? Or succeeding!
If everything moves to some degree by underlying patterns, then perhaps we have to work these things out specific to each case. Imagine each stone circle as using its own base number, one intuited to the local area. Then we cast our gaze from that to its corresponding stars, it doesn’t matter that the stars are of varying distances from the earth because we are intuiting patterns!

Just a thought.

Btw my name and DOB are a 9, when I worked this out I was living at number 27 [3 x 9] ~ and at a time when my birthday made me 27 years old, and am now living at number 99.

Something tells me I am a 9!

Though that makes absolutely no sense logically, its all coincidence, but that is where most magic lays.


Coincidentally [lol!], here’s a reply I just made on the topic of sacred geometry at another forum…

I think we could look at sacred geometry in a different way, we could take any three informational objects and consider them to be a triangle ~ even if they are in a straight line. On a primary level of information [I.e. prior to objects/physics] what I call the covert level]] there are three relationships; x,y,z, which communicate thusly; x - y - z and z - x, the lines of a triangle mean nothing at this level, here we are only seeing things in terms of relationships of informations communicating from given epicentres. Spatial locations and dimensions [the lines] occur on the overt level, and so are a secondary level.

Perhaps then plants do work [on the primary level] by the Fibonacci sequence or perhaps there is another we haven’t worked out yet. Indeed we and everything in the universe are working by patterns and by different levels of the information sandwich [covert info, objects [the filling], overt info], and we don’t know how that all works especially in our minds.
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[Attila]

Karl

Interestingly sound waves are measured in an exponential scale (ie Low C = 523Hz, Middle C = 261Hz, High C = 130Hz) rather than a linear scale. I wonder if Numerological practices could be employed using an exponential base?!

Could we take a base level sound and consider it to be ‘1’, then the next exponential note as ‘2’ then so on and so forth through all the sounds? Then cast that against the exponent and frequency number. How many notes are there including ones inaudible to humans? That could be the base.

Then the same with light frequencies.

What’s the patterns, do they correlate in any way, etc.