Heddwas /|\ wrote:'Ll' for beginners
Say 'both legs'.
Take away the 'bo' and the 'egs'.
NO! This is wrong! It is not simples!
Ll is NOT pronounced "THL" !!!!
This is a non-speakers way to say it.
way is to widen the back of your tongue, (feel the pressure on your upper back molars) and leave a gap so air can flow over the back and down the sides of the tongue. Now tense your cheek muscles and aspirate. This forces air down either sides of the tongue and sounds like a cat hissing or a generic vampire noise. A THL noise is clearly different linguistically.
The tongue comes forward so the tip touches the bottom of the back teeth during aspiration then whips back to touch the front end of the pallate just behind the teeth but in front of the ridged part.
Having been born in Abertawe pronounced "abehrr-tahweh" - Swansea
and bred in Sir Gaerfyrddyn, also known as Sir Gâr pronounced "Shur Gahr/Gairvuhrthin" (the "th" sound being hard as in the but not soft as in thin) - meaning Carmarthenshire
, being brought up in one of the many villages in the area with a "Llan" prefix, where most the old folk are so fluent in Welsh that they only lapse into English when speaking to younger generations or people they do not know, I get incensed when people think they have the pronounciation right when they clearly DO NOT.
No offence, but you don't teach someone piano because you've played it yourself for a little while, you need to have meticulous technique.